Do you know that some evangelicals think Rudy Giuliani is just like GB in terms of social issues?! That is so hilarious to me because of all the candidates, he probably has the most liberal stances on LGBT issues, reproductive rights and such. I actually agree with Giuliani on these but it’s unfortunate that he’s such a terrible person. A reporter told him last spring that his estranged 17 year old daughter got into Harvard.

“recovered at the scene.”

Does that mean “planted”?

As someone people like to call an evangelical, I don’t think we were ever a unified front. Christianity isn’t even unified, how could one category of it be? We are messed up individually and corporately, as usual. God help us all.

I’m a Christian. By no stretch of the imagination do I agree with “Evangelical Christians” on many issues. The idea of a clergy member telling me who to vote for or endorsing a candidate is absurd to me. To me, following what another human tells me blindly is more than absurd. A big part of being a mature Christian person is thinking intelligently about the issues and figuring things out between you and God. I’ve watched everything from televangelists to documentaries on what’s going on in some churches across the country and it saddens me.

Christians are unified in our belief of Jesus Christ as savior. Everything else should be secondary. Of course, we know that it’s not that easy anymore…especially in politics. The unification that you guys are speaking of re Christians will never happen. Catholics, Baptists, Methodists, Episcopalian, etc. all believe or practice slightly (or not so) differently. To unify means to get rid of those differences. Not so sure that’s a good thing. However the major rift in modern Christianity is fundamentalism vs. non. That’s a monster.

Pretty much. I am on the non fundamentalism end (shocking, I know) and I’ve resolved myself to the fact that the divinity of Jesus part is the only thing I have in common with fundamentalists. I’ve been to a fundamentalist God-wants-you-to-have-five-Mercedes-in-your-driveway megachurch and I was half expecting lightning to strike the preacher down.

My church in LA was a mega-church, but not super fundamentalist. They only got on my nerves once…when they called the religion in Haiti “heathen religion” and when I spoke up about that I got shot down very swiftly. I didn’t agree with my church’s need to send missionaries out. I don’t believe that someone’s god or religion is “heathen” b/c it’s different than mine.

On the other end, I went to a mega Southern Baptist church a few times and I would help out in the nursery. One of the rules was that we couldn’t show the kids the HOKEY POKEY b/c it was seen as “gyrating your body” and they were against all forms of secular dance/music. LOL.

It wasn’t even what they were preaching. That was predictable. My mama is Southern Baptist. It was all the money part, i.e. God hates poor folk, if you’re a good Christian, you’d be rich. That has nothing to do with fundamentalism at all, but my jaw literally dropped at some of the stuff they said.

Off topic: researchers are now saying that the cause of early puberty is stress in the home, not just diet. 45% of kids from “stressful homes” hit puberty by 5th grade while that # was 10% for those in happier homes. All kids in the study were tracked from pre-K and at the time of the study’s start, all had 2 parent households.

Tis true the only unification we need to worry about is the one that ties us the the savior. The tragic thing is that even at the most fundamental part of our faith some of us are still quite confused and not unified. If we were truly unified in Christ we’d have no need for countless denomination and 10 churches a city block. But this is a Utopian society I am wishing for and all I need to do is pray for folks to get it together and continue to work out my own salvation with fear and trembling. But can you imagine life as a Christian if we all really were on one accord. We’ll get there.