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“Every freak should have a picture of my dick on they wall.”
— Polow Da Don, “Throw Some Ds”

After much controversy, and, so he claims, “positive feedback,” Polow Da Don has returned to All Hip Hop to further prove that he is a misogynist of the highest order. Many were angry at his earlier comments, which were basically that white women made better girlfriends than black women because black women didn’t know how to be submissive.

I think it offended a lot of black women specifically, but it’s really a statement that is offensive to all women. It supposes that our role in a relationship is to be submit to a male. In 2007, I’m all for being giving, helpful, and respectful (and having a man who embodies those things as well), but “submission” is not in my job description as a girlfriend/wife if its not in my man’s too.

Polow da Don is under the erroneous impression that only black women who come from single parent households (my parents have been married 35 years) and who are uneducated (I guess the Master’s degree doesn’t count) feel the way I do. Think again. To spare you from reading the entire, completely ridiculous Q&A, allow me to paraphrase his core argument after the jump.

• Anyone who disagrees with him is a nigga or a bitch. Ladies and gentlemen know what’s up.

• It’s not only the black female population’s fault that many black men are in such a sorry state, but it’s also our sole job to pull them out of it. Apparently, women are the only ones required to have a sense of personal responsibility. There was also a strip club metaphor involved, but it doesn’t bear repeating.

• Anyone who reads knows that men should come before women.

• The purpose of criticizing black women is to “shine the light on the cockroaches.”

• Black women have done this to themselves! Okay, maybe they haven’t. But kinda.

• Women are expected to somehow be both the backbone and the doormat of the black family. And they better like it!

• Oprah Winfrey’s a terrible role model for young women because she is unmarried.

Thanks, Neenee, for the tip!

Aug 29, 2007 · Link · 28 Responses
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Comments (28)

No. 1 blackmistressdiva says:

Who’s down for a drive by?

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 1:16 pm
No. 2 daria says:

He’s saying what is inferred in a lot of black entertainment, both the family-friendly kind and the smutty variety.

I was not offended by his prior statements or these ones. His mama, girlfriends, bed mates and black MEN (not little boys like him) should be embarrassed, outraged and otherwise offended.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 1:22 pm
No. 3 honee says:

wow, this fool actually thinks he talking some real truth…it should be mentioned that he stated in the article his mom was born in Japan…I’m assuming she’s asian…so I’ll make the jump that he learned this from his father…

this is really sad…because if you look at the comments on allhiphop or whatever it is…the young men think this fool is preaching something of substance b/c he referenced the willie lynch letter a million times

this goes to show what my grandmother always said is so true a fool with a lil bit of education/wisdom is a dangerous thing…

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 1:35 pm
No. 4 Neenee says:

It is so sad that this fool got through one 30page book (Willie Lynch Letters)and thinks he can “preach knowledge” on people. The article on Allhiphop made me so mad I had to take a 20 min. break before finishing read it. I so wish I could have this man read Cheikh Anta Diop’s work or Bell Hooks’ “Aint I a Woman” who discuss Africa being a Matriachal system before the intrusion of the Western and Muslim Worlds. But someone this dumb couldnt get through those books. I just hope some of those “submissive” White women read his comments and stop giving him the time of day.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 1:57 pm
No. 5 blackmistressdiva says:

If his mother is Japanese (or just grew up in Asian culture) then it *might* account for his views toward women as submissive sexbots. Maybe she was one of the stereotypes?

We see you Polow.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 1:58 pm
No. 6 honee says:

NeeNee, I so agree with your post. I still need to go outside and scream. I surely hope that the women in the entertainment industry stop using his services and women stop supporting songs that have his beats…Ugh,this has been a rough summer for black women in the media…I’m fearful to see what’s coming.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 2:07 pm
No. 7 sophisticat says:

If only POLOW would take his own advice and READ!! Seems experts think the Willie Lynch letter is a colossal fraud. (Figures, that Polow relies on it). The letter is supposed to have been written by a white slaveowner, who shares his ideas on keeping blacks “in line.” It was SUPPOSED to have been written in the 1700s, but too bad it happens to use language like “self-refueling,” which is linked to the automotive industry, which wasn’t exactly in existence in the 1700s. Also, the letter refers to “Black” people — capitalization of the “B” began during the civil rights movement (1960s) — HELLO?!

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 2:29 pm
No. 8 JillyBean819 says:

blackmistressdiva,

I’m down for doing a drive-by on this fool…

I don’t understand how anyone could agree with this fool.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 2:34 pm
No. 9 JillyBean819 says:

One more thing…

Polow if you are reading this I want you to know that you are exactly the type of black man that I desperately avoid in bars or anywhere else out in public. You stank, yo’ ass stank, and yo’ family probably stank. Have a great day.

~An angry educated black woman

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 2:40 pm
No. 10 Keepin It Real says:

Polow Da Don is telling the truth, which is actually good for black women. Black women are having more trouble finding men to marry than ever, and it’s because everyone is too PC to tell them the truth: they are just too damn sassy! I’d prefer someone give me an unpleasant truth that helps me improve than a nice lie that keeps me ignorant.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 3:46 pm
No. 11 Neenee says:

The only point this “man” makes is that Black men feel emasculated by Black women’s strength. However instead of taking responsibility for this he blames Black women. Black women are strong because they have been left to be mother’s and father’s to their children. After slavery was abolished many White’s would not hire Black men. So Black women had to work and care for the home this was not our doing. Black men havent stepped up to the plate. But are Women suppose to lay down and wait for a man to show leadership. God did not make Eve to be Adams play thing. He made her to stand by his side not underneath him. I’m sorry if Black women’s strength is intimidating but get over it. My strength cant take away from yours. And as far as that too damn sassy comment. It reminds me of reading about slavery & jim crow days when sassy ni**er’s were lynched for not knowing their place.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:06 pm
No. 12 blackmistressdiva says:

^^Really? I’m getting married on November 24, and I’m about as opinionated as they come so your theory is busted. If you find a man who is secure in his manhood, appreciates a woman for having a mind of her own, wants his partner to pursue her life’s goals even though they may or may not have anything to do with him - then hold on to him. The problem is not with “sassy” black women. I’m sorry, but the problem is with immature men who are threatened by a woman’s realizing her true and full potential and will do or say anything to keep her down.

If Polow is representative of what black women have to choose from, then you’re damn right black woman ARE having trouble finding men. Finding good men.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:08 pm
No. 13 blackmistressdiva says:

That was meant for Keeping it Real, not you Neenee.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:08 pm
No. 14 JillyBean819 says:

I could EASILY come out with a list as to why white men are better to marry and settle down with than black men.

But I won’t… b/c that would be damning to black men, a group of people in this country that need a lot of help. So rather than dogging them I choose to complain within my own group of friends instead of blasting it all over the internet.

If only black men could afford black women that same consideration.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:26 pm
No. 15 daria says:

Keepin It Real, if you’re a man, you should not be intimidated by a woman’s strength or independence. You should appreciate it. Isn’t it nice to have someone there who wants to be with you rather than someone who needs you to survive?

To be honest, since my late teens, I haven’t been romantically involved with any black men because there’s a supply issue and I’m unwilling to fight or bend over backwards to get someone’s attention. I’ve dated non-black men who have no problem with this and I assure you that any man out there worth being with isn’t going to have an issue with a woman’s strength, independence, sass, whatever.

I don’t need a man to pay my bills, protect me, etc. I can work and I can get Brinks and a big dog. I am still trying to figure out where these docile white women are because I surely do not know any.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:31 pm
No. 16 daria says:

And to be perfectly honest, after making some inferences from that domestic violence-education article last week, my subconscious search for the “IBM” has cooled dramatically and I’m starting to lean towards JB’s above view which is really unfortunate.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:35 pm
No. 17 Keepin It Real says:

“Really? I’m getting married on November 24, and I’m about as opinionated as they come so your theory is busted.”

You’re what’s called an exception. Black women per capita are the least married by far, there’s even documentaries starting about it.

I hate when people point to themselves and a few other people and act like that suddenly disproves a theory. There are always a few exceptions.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:35 pm
No. 18 Neenee says:

So the fact that Black men wont marry is Black women’s fault. Has nothing to do with fear of commitment or that these men are just punks!!!! Interesting! If you really want to search interracial marriage is not where all these black men are, studies say Black men are single too.

I hate when people only use small sections of studies to make there point.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:42 pm
No. 19 Keepin It Real says:

“So rather than dogging them I choose to complain within my own group of friends instead of blasting it all over the internet.

If only black men could afford black women that same consideration.”

Get off your high horse, black women have made a cottage industry out of publicly bashing black dudes. Waiting to Exhale? Color Purple? A million other anonymous black chick lit with the same theme flying off the shelves? I could go on and on with examples, so don’t act like it’s something primarily done by black guys. Now one guy gives you a taste of your own medicine and you freak. It’s hypocritical.

The latest public insult has been spreading of down low myth because black women needed some new excuse for why they have relationship trouble. Now we have to be subjected to articles and jokes in the mainstream media about it. Meanwhile white politicians like McGreevey, Mark Foley and Larry Craig are all white guys who acted straight and were secretly gay, yet we don’t here any downlow talk bout them do we? So don’t pretend black women never publicly throw black men to the wolves.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:42 pm
No. 20 Keepin It Real says:

Neenee, per capita black women still unmarried at a much higher rate than black men, especially when you take into account black guys out of the dating pool due to jail. A lot of this is because black men are over four times as likely to date interracially than black women.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:46 pm
No. 21 blackmistressdiva says:

Well we see what you think of black women. I may be the exception as far as getting married, but show me some scientific proof that black women can’t find a man b/c we are too sassy. Women of all races are marrying in fewer numbers. More women are deciding to choose a career over marriage. So it’s not all this sassiness b.s.

And you didn’t address my point about Polow. If you want to keep it real and not be PC. A lot of people would say he’s the stereotypical black man: sitting up in some interview with no education, looking and sounding a fool. Yea, Yea, let’s all run out and marry that. He’s why they make vibrators.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:50 pm
No. 22 honee says:

I love how you say you’ve got to take into account black men being in jail…well, does it count that many black women are involved with men in jail and are trying to stay faithful to them…

anyway, daria co-sign with your posts…

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 4:58 pm
No. 23 daria says:

“In 2001, according to the U.S. Census, 43.3 percent of black men and 41.9 percent of black women in America had never been married, in contrast to 27.4 percent and 20.7 percent respectively for whites.”

Oh, cohabitation is also seems to be more popular with African-Americans, hence the “Marriage is for White People” article in the Times. I don’t see marriage as the promised land. What annoys me is the lack of responsibility by black fathers, mine included, an upper-middle class black immigrant. Presumably, if you’re married, involvement in your children’s lives is higher so I guess those have to go hand in hand to some extent.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 5:15 pm
No. 24 black_ivy_grad says:

I’m assuming he is getting most of his ideology from the Bible, therefore I will address that. People love to take bits and pieces of the Bible to fit their needs. Especially men who want to justify their sick ideologies. Yes, in the household (meaning married man and woman) God is first and the man is to submit to Him. Next is the man, which the woman is supposed to submit to him. If a man is truly of Christian faith, then he already knows he is supposed to LOVE, HONOR and RESPECT his wife.

Now, most problems are already started once folks start sleeping with people they don’t marry or shackin’ up. I find it funny how Polow can say what women are supposed to do without mentioning men’s role too.

Posted: Aug 29, 2007 at 5:46 pm
No. 25 Spendi says:

1)To all of my Sisters, please do know that there are some actual Black Men out there, who are trying to come up, and take you with us. I was given more opportunity than most, as I came up in the suburbs. For a while, that led me down the path of suburban (white) cultural assimilation. Some age and some wisdom however, have blessed me with a much needed awareness. I’m in University now, working on my last year for my BA in Liberal Studies. After that, i’m getting that Teaching Credential and keeping that knowledge in the community (pray for me).

I know that a Black woman already has two strikes against her already, as being both Black and a woman. I know that a Black woman is the pillar of our home. You feed us, console us, mother our children, provide morals in our home. When a Black man must lift the weight of the white world and the Black world on his shoulders, you are there to help him carry that weight. We have not all forgotten you, Black Queens. I have not forgotten you. So don’t give up on us Brothers yet.

2)KeepinItReal…you are the type of Brother that makes a nigga like me, get heated right quick. You need to fall back on all that jaw bonein’ you got going on. If somebody would have given you a late pass, you would have seen that Lauren posted an article last week, about Black women and their situation. They are getting abused, and refusing to report it, because they don’t want to see an economically and socially “productive” Brother, going to jail. So they just let it weigh them down.

70% of all Black females are single. And do you know why? Because they keep waiting around for niggas like you to grow up and get it together. Rather than turn to white men, like so many brothers keep turning to white women, they would rather be single and keep on waiting for that boat to return to the dock. They are waiting for US, my nigga. So don’t get it twisted. You need to come correct.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=HvQel-sIKwM

3)I have no doubt that the Willie Lynch letters are genuine. My mother has a saying. “It’s called History for a reason. Because it’s HIS STORY.” I love all good people on God’s good earth, but white society at large does some serious dirt, to obscure the truth. I mean, they tell us that Christopher Columbus “discovered” America. How the hell do you discover a place where people have already been living for centuries?

White people used to write books to prove that Blacks were in fact animals. They came up with Manifest Destiny and White Man’s Burden. I realize that not every White person is out there to do us wrong. But believe me…the ones who are, mean us some serious harm. Even if the letter is indeed fake, much of what it says, is a serious and existing problem, in our community now. So rather than debating the validity of the origins, we should be debating the validity of the charges it levies against our people.

We need to raise and uplift. We can’t keep fighting each other all of the time. Black men are tearing down our own women for not being submissive, when a marriage is supposed to be a mutual relationship. Black women only tear us down, becuase we keep leaving them, beating them, and even when we are around, we don’t treat them like they are good enough. KOS my Brothers and Sisters. Knowledge of Self. Stay up and keep doin’ though. Fucks wit ya boy and let me know whats good. One.

Posted: Aug 30, 2007 at 10:28 am
No. 26 JillyBean819 says:

“black women have made a cottage industry out of publicly bashing black dudes. Waiting to Exhale? Color Purple?”

Oh please. Those are terrible examples. If you watched the movies you’d see that the reason why the women got upset with the black men was b/c the men were disrespectful or were downright fools.

Posted: Aug 30, 2007 at 3:59 pm
No. 27 Evil says:

I think many of the majority of black people make then selves look like niggers as many would say.
Just making a stereotype stick and the noogie boogie bullshit they spit out there, the non lyrical bs that preaches ignorance is no help either. Ill be glad when this type of music ceases to exist and is known as “remember when”.

Posted: Nov 21, 2007 at 8:28 pm
No. 28 ABM1913 says:

I hope everyone on this page knows that even if the W. Lynch papers are fake, the plan to divide slaves is historical and its impact is clear here on this board. Males were used to stud offspring, then were often sold to break up the family unit. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO PREVENT A MAN FROM KILLING ANYONE WHO BEAT HIS CHILDREN. IT WAS COMMON PRACTICE. From here, it is not hard to see what children learn about the family unit in these circumstances. They Learn that the Man cannot protect his family and that the Woman is going to have to raise the family. The Womans instinct will be to protect her children, hence producing sumbmissive adults. giving light skinned people easy jobs and dark skinned people harder jobs creates anomosity(Everyone has seen this in some form: Team leaders at work, younger kids with easier chores…etc)These aspects with the implementation of Sharecropping(which created the common practice of our community living on credit and reducing our capacity to save) has led to the bickering on this site. BLACK PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP AND REALIZE THAT OUR COMMUNITY IS SUFFERING FROM A PATHOLOGY THAT STEMS FROM THE ENSLAVEMENT PROCESS. END OF STORY!! Once we realize that and the fact that the capitalist system is built around the theroy that Blacks shall remain systematically unemployed (capitalism relys on at least 3% unemployment-Guess who that 3% ?)and disenfranchised from governmental process, We can begin to fix our situation in the U.S. . And before anyone complains——pick up any economic textbook and see that capitalsim only works with 2.5-4.5% unemployment rate. This way industry can control wage by threatening to hire one of the people that they know don’t have jobs. P E A C E

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